Posted by Robby
Jonathan has some thoughts on gay marriage. I’m just going to jump right in.
The anti-traditional marriage crowd is trying to intimidate the pro-traditional marriage crowd. (link) (link)
For what it’s worth, the idea of publishing the names of Prop.17 supporters may not have been the best idea ever. That said, it’s already public information. All that whosigned is doing is making information that is already open to the public more available. Nice martyr complex there.
I believe that every child deserves a loving father and a mother. I believe that it is up to the State of Washington to see that children are only born or adopted by married couples, male and female, who will love and raise them righteously.
And I believe that I should spend every evening in the company of several beautiful women. Unfortunately, you can’t always get what you want. Additionally, what you want here doesn’t make any sense. Do you really believe that kids are better of in foster care, bouncing from family to family, then they would be if they were adopted by a loving couple who also happened to be gay?
There is nothing more important to us or anyone than our children.
And Jonathan reaches the pinnacle of his debating skills. WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN??!?!?!?!?!
If you are an evolutionist, you must agree, since it is not the preservation of life that is important but the propagation of the species.
And yet, I don’t.
The homosexual marriage movement (I refuse to call it “gay”) is focused on diminishing marriage until it is nothing more than a selfish contract between two consenting adults. They are trying to destroy the one thing in our society that protects children and brings lasting happiness to justify their perversions of the flesh.
What does he think that matrimony (for no reason whatsoever, I am going to refuse to call it “marriage”) is right now. As it happens, very few weddings happen for the reasons that Jonathan feels they should. Also, “the one thing in our society that protects children?” Screw the police. All the protection children need can be found in families. Except when their (usually heterosexual) families abuse them, I guess.
Marriage is much more than a contract. It is a sacrament, a holy ordinance, and a sacred consecration of the entire persons to each other. The reason why man and wife join to become one is not to pleasure each other with the flesh, but to raise up a righteous family built on love. The reason why it is so hard is because unless both the husband and the wife give everything they have into it, unselfishly and without any expectation of reward, they cannot experience success. It takes faith to get married, faith to stay married. Faith that although things are not perfect, they can be perfect if we simply never give up.
So should those who don’t believe in God be prohibited from getting married? I hate to have to be the one to tell you this, but marriage has never been anything but a contract. That doesn’t mean it’s useless, just that recognizing the utility of the union is important for it’s survival. Marriage (oops, I wasn’t going to use that word) is a means for society to recognize that two people intend to take care of each other indefinitely and, in most cases, reproduce. That second part is good and important, but not inclusive. The first can certainly happen without the second.
There is no other place in any society where you can go to get the kind of love and growth you get in your family. It is the duty of every man, woman, and child to not only support the holy institution of marriage, but become a husband and wife, a mother and father through it. This, and nothing else, will bring lasting, eternal happiness. All is naught compared to what you get in marriage.
I have a friend who would disagree. His family was an abusive hellhole. Or maybe he wouldn’t disagree. He might say that, while his natural family was of no real use to him, he had created a new family of friends. That family might not involve marriage, but it is just as important. Family can come in many different shapes, and one of those possible shapes can indeed involve gays.
When my name gets listed at whosigned.org and knowthyneighbor.org, I will wear it like a badge of honor. I am willing to sacrifice all that I can to see that the State of Washington stands up for traditional, holy matrimony. I want to be known as those who are listed are known as defenders of marriage. I want to be insulted and threatened and harassed by those who have lost all sense of good and evil, and pursue evil endlessly.
And what a sacrifice it is. You mean that Jonathan Gardner, who frequently posts right-wing rants online, is willing to let his name be seen online in opposition to gay marriage? There are not words do describe the level of sacrifice.